Reclaimed & Unashamed

Understand the Root Causes of Your Porn Habit, Part 2 - Loneliness, Shame, Trauma/Abuse, Misguided Devotion, and Dulled Desires

Kolton Thomas

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In part 2 of understanding root causes, we explore 5 more deep underlying causes that tend to work together synergistically to draw men into the struggle with porn:

  1. Loneliness and isolation
  2. Shame
  3. Suffering from trauma and abuse
  4. Living with misguided devotion
  5. Allowing our good desires to be dulled and dampened

Understanding these underlying causes is a big first step to finding more freedom and self-control.  Knowledge is power, and the revealing comes before the healing.

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Welcome to the Reclaimed Recovery Podcast,


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where we are all about helping them

become porn resilient and live porn free.


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You're listening to Episode 12,

which is a part two on the common root


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causes

associated with an unwanted porn habit.


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And today we are covering reasons six

through ten.


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In the last episode,

we covered reasons one through five,


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which included the nature of a porn habit


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and how it relates to the brain

and brain science we covered.


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Number two, curiosity and imagination

and how these innocent things


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that we've had since childhood ended up

getting us into some trouble.


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And they can get us into trouble

from time to time.


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But inherently, these are good things.


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Curiosity and imagination are powerful

tools


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for us to be able to improve ourselves,


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better our lives and our families,

and reach higher potentials.


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Then we talked about how a lack of vision,

motivation


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and purpose was a huge underlying cause

for a lot of guys.


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Feelings of futility.


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And I believe research from Jay Stringer

from Unwanted.


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He's a renowned counselor and author

in this space found in his research out


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researching thousands of guys

that men who felt like they didn't have


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a clear sense of purpose and direction

were like something like seven times


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more likely to engage in pornography

or for their porn habit to escalate.


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And so, man,

that's a really eye opening point.


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And then number four was we talked about

how we live in a hyper sexualized society.


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There is so much pressure from society

to live and act a certain way.


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And society has all these ways

to get this message across to us now.


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Right.


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We spend every day using social media.


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We spend every day using technology

that has the ability


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to send these ads and messages our way.


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Right.


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And if we're not actively reminding

ourselves of what's true,


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if we're not actively working

on our identity,


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over time,

these messages will begin to sink in


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really deep and got a plan themselves

in our hearts like weeds.


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And we're going to have to actively

dig them out.


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If this is an area

we haven't been diligent in


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and the number five

was talking about negative emotions


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and how we just naturally as men

want to avoid them.


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Right. We just want to escape hard

and difficult things.


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We might not think of it like an escape.


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We might just think that, well, it's

not going to do me


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any good to be in touch with my emotions

and think about these things.


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And a lot of times we might think

that the best thing we can do


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is to shut all those things off


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and just try to keep on going on

with normal daily life.


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Well, what we're finding out is that

that's actually not a good strategy.


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As men, we really need to learn

how to be self-aware of what


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we're feeling and our emotions

and learn how to handle them.


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And, you know, that's going

to look a certain way for each guy.


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But the fact of the matter is,

you have to start working on those skills,


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because if there are underlying things

that you're trying to escape


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from, that you keep pushing off.


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Guess what?


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Pornography is going to exploit

those things.


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You're going to turn to pornography

as part of your solution for escaping


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from those things.


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Okay.


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Pornography

is going to become an accomplice


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and it's going to be

your biggest accomplice


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in helping you escape from the things


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you're not wanting to face

in your daily life.


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And so that's a quick recap of what

we talked about in the last episode.


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Now, in this episode, we're going to talk

about five more topics.


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And so number six is going to be


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loneliness and isolation,

and number seven is going to be shame.


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Talking about how shame plays into this

struggle, number eight is going to be


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trauma and abuse and how that often leaves

an imprint on men that keeps them


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stuck and makes it difficult to pull away

from pornography in their life.


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Now, number nine is going to be

a little bit different.


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It's going to be a misdirected devotion

or a lack of worship.


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And I'll explain more about what

I mean by that when we get there.


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And then number ten is going to be desire.


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Okay.


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And so a couple of these ideas

might be different for you.


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You may not have heard them before.


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They might be a little bit


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more outside the box or a different way

of thinking about the problem.


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So I'm going to ask

you guys to be open minded,


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but without further ado,

we're going to jump into it.


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We're going to start with number six,

which is loneliness and isolation,


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and it's closely

related to negative emotions.


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But loneliness and isolation is a feeling,

but it's also a state


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that we're in when we simply aren't

having close, intimate interaction


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with many other people on a weekly,

let alone daily basis.


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I think I may have mentioned this

on a previous episode, but


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there was a Harvard study done

that’s super, super interesting,


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tracked the lives of men

throughout decades.


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It's one of the longest

studies of its kind ever done.


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It actually might be the longest


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for men following them

through their entire lifetime.


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And I think it's actually being carried

on through generations,


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like through their children,

which is pretty cool, but it's studied


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various factors of their lives

and what contributed to their overall


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health and wellness and happiness

as they grew older.


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Okay.


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And I mean, this study was done in extreme

depth, like scientists


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would go into their homes

on a regular basis


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and they would run all kinds of tests,

like on the brain


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blood tests, do in-depth interviews

and surveys of these guys.


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It was highly, highly detailed.


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And of course, shouldn't be a huge

surprise to us, but one of the significant


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findings was that the thing

that made the difference for the men


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who were healthiest and happiest

and kind of thriving and kind of living


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successfully in terms of

like what their goals were


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and feeling like they were realizing

their talents and their potential.


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All of that


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all hinged on


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whether they felt like they were

connected, whether they had community,


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whether they had healthy relationships


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with their family

and with several close friends.


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And they were doing life


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with people like that,

and they were having opportunities


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to enjoy all the blessings that come

with healthy relationships as well.


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So connectivity was the key to that study.


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And so of course the opposite of that.


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If we're moving in the opposite direction

from connectivity in healthy


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relationships,

it's loneliness and isolation.


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Okay?


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And there are all kinds of reasons

why we can find ourselves


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in loneliness and isolation.


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Sometimes we are in a lonely spot.


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We don't have many close friends

and relationships around us.


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And that can lead us

to pornography, right?


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Because the loneliness and isolation

is going to create some really negative


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feelings and emotions.


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We want to avoid them.


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We're looking for something

to kind of Band-Aid them.


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Symptom relief.


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So we turn to porn, right?

That can make sense.


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A lot of guys may start looking at porn

maybe because of the addictive nature


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of it, what it's doing to the brain,

the curiosity.


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They may not be as lonely when they start,

but the longer that they continue


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to use porn, the lonelier that they feel,


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the more the isolation comes in.


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And there's several things

that contribute to that, right?


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A big one is shame,

which is actually our next root cause.


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And all of these are related,

keep in mind.


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But shame is often something


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that's going hand in hand

with loneliness and isolation.


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And it's this repetitive cycle, right,

where the more lonely that we feel,


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the more ashamed we feel in general,

but also when we watch pornography, right?


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And so we start spending all of this time

alone inside of our heads.


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We've tried using willpower,

we've tried using this positive


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self-talk, but now we're disgusted

with ourselves because we've failed.


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We don't feel like

we're disciplined enough and we don't have


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anyone around us to tell us

and remind us of who we are


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and to encourage us and tell us that, yes,

you can do this.


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That drives us more into isolation

and loneliness, right?


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That shame.


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And then when we feel more lonely,

we want to look at porn.


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And then that brings about the next time

we look at it worse feelings of shame.


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And for a lot of guys,

this is like a snowball effect.


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Like it goes on for a really long time

and the longer it goes on, the harder


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it becomes to bear.


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And that's when we get guys who are just

so desperate to get out of it.


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They're willing to spend, you know, three

or four years of intensive work,


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tens of thousands of dollars.


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And, man, it's really tough.


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My heart really goes out to you

if you're in this situation right now.


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But it's important to understand

that you don't have to wait till things


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get this bad to decide

to start working on this.


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Okay.


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And if it has gotten this bad,

there are resources for you.


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But look, reclaimed is here.


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And we have a ten-week program

that's here for men who are feeling


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like it's not a habit

they can control very well.


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And they don't want to get to that point

where now they have to spend thousands


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and thousands of dollars

and they're spent all this time


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like put their life on pause

in order to address this.


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Reclaimed is a program for men

who are struggling with this habit, but


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who need to work on it in conjunction

with other things going on in their lives.


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Okay.


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And it gives men an opportunity

to work and confidentiality and privacy


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and then in a matter of weeks or months,

be able to begin the process


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of moving on from it and just enjoying

other things in life, putting their focus


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and attention back to other things in life

and leading in other areas of their life


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rather than constantly being consumed

by this issue.


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And so if you've been listening

to our podcast and you've been researching


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some things about reclaimed, listen,

this program is for you.


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If you're stuck

feeling lonely and isolated,


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but you're ready to do something

about this before it gets worse,


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you're ready to reverse the direction

that this is going in your life,


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and you want to come out

from the other side of the struggle


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as a better man

with an improved vision of their life


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and improved understanding of purpose

and the things you stand


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for, the values that you stand for.


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That's what your claim is here to do.


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Okay, but look,

there are a lot of lonely man


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in our society today, and porn

is thriving off of this loneliness.


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It's just the truth.


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A lot of it is the cycle of loneliness,

isolation and shame.


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And pornography gets put in the mix

and it just amplifies it, you know?


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So, man,

the thing that is really going to fight


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shame is obviously healthy community

in relationships.


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Those around us people

we love can really help us fight shame.


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But really what it comes down to

as well as identity.


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If we don't choose our identity,

if we don't actively participate


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in affirming our identity,

then life will choose it


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for us, other people, other

things are going to tell us who we are.


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It's as simple as that.


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You're either proactively taking part

in affirming your identity on a day to day


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basis or you're not,

and you are kind of lost in your identity.


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And when that happens,

it gives all the more power to shame.


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And so shame deepening the wounds of

loneliness, isolation, negative emotions.


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That is number seven for us, which brings

us to number eight, trauma and abuse.


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All right.


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So this one is for men

and women who suffered abuse.


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The most obvious form that relates to

this is sexual abuse, which there's


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a surprising, surprising amount of people

who have suffered sexual abuse.


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It's just not something

that we talk about.


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But I can tell you,

as an aspiring counselor and


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as someone who's worked with a lot of men

who've struggled with porn,


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it is a lot more common than you would

think, not just among women.


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I think there's a lot of statistics

about women, young women


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being abused, but even among men.


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And so if that's you and you're out there,

I can tell you


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you're definitely not alone.


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However, I didn't suffer


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any type of sexual abuse

that I can remember that I'm aware of.


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And so I don't fully know

what it feels like


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to have gone through something like that,


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but my heart really goes out to you,

if that's you.


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Because we know from science and research

and the experience of so many


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that have gone through that,

that it can take many, many years


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or indeed a lifetime to overcome


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the effects of such an abuse or trauma.


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And so one thing about trauma and abuse


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is that it has this ability to imprint


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on a young mind.


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Our brains are actually designed through

the hippocampus to store certain memories,


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and we create from a young age

what's called an arousal template.


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And we'll talk more about that

some time, too.


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But arousal template, the most basic way

I can explain it is that something happens


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to us, a sexual act happens to us,

and we feel arousal towards it,


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and that imprints in our brains

and it often carries with us


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for years and years and again,

sometimes for a lifetime.


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And, you know,

a lot of people get confused


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as they grow and mature

because they find themselves


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with sexual feelings and attractions

that they don't want,


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and they're confused about

why they have them.


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And a lot of times

it points back to an experience


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with sexual abuse or some kind of trauma

when they were younger.


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And that is something

that I really believe


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in counseling for counselors

who are specifically trained


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to work with people to process

through those kinds of experiences.


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But it is also a major contributor

to why so many people


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are getting stuck in pornography habits

and aren't able to get out.


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Okay, now let's move on to number nine.


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Number nine is going to be misdirected

devotion or lack of worship.


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It's going to be closely

tied to number ten.


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But I'm going to make a distinction.


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So number nine, misdirected devotion.


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What do I mean by that?


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So part of this comes down

to my worldview, my faith.


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As a Christian, I believe that God

has placed eternity in the heart


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of every man and that all of us

seek to worship and idolize something.


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Okay.


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And even if you're not a Christian,

I think a really strong case could be made


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for this

to where you could at least see my point


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in our culture,

when you think about things


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like when you think of everything

from things like sports and celebrities


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and icons right down to our pets

that we want to show devotion to.


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Okay.


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So we're wired to give our attention

and to pay attention to something


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or someone

and to be constantly looking for a strong


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leader

and a purpose and a cause in our lives.


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And so we tend to be scanning


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for things that can fill this purpose

of worship and devotion.


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And we tend to grab on to the things

that are the loudest.


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We tend to grab on to the things


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that might seem to benefit the most

and be the most practical.


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And unfortunately, a lot of times

those things aren't actually


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very good for us, they're harmful to us.


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And so what we end up doing is we end up

idolizing the wrong things in our life.


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And of course, this is so closely

connected to like when we talked about


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being in a hypersexualized society

in our last episode, society


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is trying to tell us what to worship

and what to give devotion to.


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And so if we're experiencing

a lack of true and positive devotion


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and worship


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in our lives towards, you know,

I believe that that should be towards God


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if we're lacking that in our lives, well,

guess what?


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It's going to start

latching on to other things.


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And guess what?


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One of the most common, accessible

and powerful things


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that wants to make itself

available to us is pornography.


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And in the context

of what we're talking about


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right now, the reason

why we want to latch onto pornography


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is because in a strange way,

it offers us hope that we can feel better


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and be better and become something because

of the beliefs that we have about sex.


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And so we start to look for our hope

and our affirmation


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in sex and our identities

and our confidence in ourselves, in sex,


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and whether we're getting sex or not


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and whether we're getting the attention

that we want from women or not.


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And so because of this, pornography

becomes very alluring.


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And unless we turn our worship

and devotion back to God, back to Jesus


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to point us in the direction

that we need to go to that true north,


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then our devotion will

continue to be misdirected.


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Okay, so hope you're hanging with me.


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Still, we've got one more.


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This is Root Cause number ten.


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All right?


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And I've got one here

that I think is often not talked about.


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And I think may be


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the most important of all, especially

if it's something you haven't looked into.


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Now, I want to remind you that out

of all the things we've covered


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so far, you may have a combination

of all of these.


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It's likely

that you're struggling with porn because


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like most of these, a majority of these

are all working together.


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And each of these things

can be spoken to separately


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and there can be healing that can happen

with each one of these causes.


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But you're also probably likely

to gravitate more towards one


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or two of these reasons for why

you're stuck in porn and to the point


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where you felt like you were addicted

or couldn't get out.


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So it's important to again.


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Yeah, I challenge you to think

in terms of self-awareness.


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Think about these

and think about what could be at the heart


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and the root cause for you in your story

when it comes to struggling with porn.


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That's my challenge for you.


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All right.

Now let's move on to the last one.


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The last one is actually desire.


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It's desire.


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And it may not be the kind of desire

that you think


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right off the bat when I say that.


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So I'm not talking about the sort

of like craving, desire


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that our brains have


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when we think about it

in terms of like dopamine and the science


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and our brains just kind of craving

and anticipating more.


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I'm actually not talking about that.


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What I'm talking about is more abstract


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and it has more to do with the spirit

and the heart.


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The thing is, we all have good desires

and what I like to do,


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and I'm not the only one who does, is

you hear other people talk about this too.


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But I like to have people think back to

when they were a boy or a little girl


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and think about a time when you really had

just innocent, good desires,


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so many things that you wanted, that

you dreamed of,


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that you imagined

just for the sake of of goodness.


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I think a lot of us can look back

and remember, at least somewhat,


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parts of our childhood where it feels like


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we hadn't been corrupted,

we hadn't become cynical.


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We loved just for the sake of loving.


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And we had these desires

that seemed so pure and so good.


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I believe that we still have those in us.


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They just become harder to see

and they become muddied.


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Things become really muddy.


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It's like, is our good God given desires?


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We're like a room in our hearts.


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So much junk just gets thrown in there

and we kind of forget what


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those good desires are.

We lose touch with them.


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And I think it's so important

for men or women who are struggling


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with pornography to get back in touch

with those good desires.


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College how we talked about curiosity

and imagination.


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Those are good things.


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But they get twisted, they get robbed.


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The enemy seeks to steal or kill, destroy.


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And so we have to reconnect ourselves


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with that good desire

that still dwells in our hearts.


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And so how can we get more specific

about those desires?


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We can put them

into some different categories.


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For example, pretty much

every human has a desire for certainty,


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the assurance that we can avoid pain


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and that we can gain pleasure

and that we can be safe.


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Safety right, too, would be uncertainty

or variety.


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The need for the unknown change.


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New stimuli, adventure. Right.


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That's a word that something.


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And we love to think about our lives

like an adventure we're in


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that what that is, is

variety and uncertainty.


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Then another basic human need

is significance.


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Feeling unique, important, special needed

feeling heard, feeling seen.


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That's a good desire.


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Fourth is connection and love.


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Strong feeling of closeness or union

with someone, intimacy


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being desired, being pursued so,

so important.


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We talked about


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how much that fights isolation,

how much that contributes to identity.


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A fifth good desire would be for growth,

an expansion


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of our skills, talents, capacity,

capability, and understanding,


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reaching higher for our potential

and growing and self-awareness.


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Another good desire would be contribution.


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Everyone wants to have a sense of service

and focus on helping and giving


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to support others.


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One more that I would


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put in here for anyone that is faith

based is worship.


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Worship is a desire.


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And that's why

this root cause links to the last one


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we talked about number nine

and I believe we all have this


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compass is an internal compass

that is going to guide us towards


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not just something greater than ourselves,


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but some one greater than ourselves.


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And for me, I believe that that's God.


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And so I believe that worship is a pure


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desire and a natural desire

that we're all born with guys.


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All of these things,

all of these desires we lose touch with


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and we trade them in, we doll them,


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we allow them to be corrupted or twisted.


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We start to think that

all of our intentions are bad.


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Maybe our desires aren't good,

but I would make the strong argument


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that when we go to look at pornography,

when we're driven to porn,


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we are trying to meet a good desire,

or we are trying to meet


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what is essentially underneath

it all, a God given desire


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that we were created

with, that we are supposed to pursue,


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that God wants us to pursue,

but we're trading it in.


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We're allowing our desires to be dulled

down into things like pornography


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that bring about momentary pleasure

but lack human dignity.


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And until we can learn to pursue our God


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given desires in ways and healthy ways

that God intended, until we can learn


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to take our feelings of sexual attraction

and energy, and we can connect


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in those moments to our God given desire

and channel those things in healthy ways.


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We're going to continue

to struggle with porn.


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And so this is another thing that's so,

so important in our ten week program


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and in our community.


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We encourage guys to think


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about what these desires are

and then to go for them.


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And everyone is like cheering you on

because this is like,


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man, this desire that you have.


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We all know

that there is something in store for you


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that is so much greater than a life

sentence of viewing pornography.


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Right.


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We believe that deep down

when we see that happen, because it does


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happen and guys can get to a point

where they're doubting that boom


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when they start to get it and believe

that again, man, that is exciting.


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Encouraging one another.


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Encouraging other men to connect


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with those good desires,

those noble desires,


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and then to start to live them out

and reach out for them in healthy ways.


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Man, that changes someone's life.


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That's what we're all here for and that's

what the reclaimed community is about.


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And so if you're listening to this,

I hope that we can encourage


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you towards your God given desires.


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Think about that.


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What are some desires that you have?


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Why are they going unmet and

how is pornography trying to meet them?


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Right.


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That's why we've said this before

and others have said


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this is that pornography is not a problem.


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That's not the only way to think about it.


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Pornography is a solution


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and it's trying to take the place

of your God given desires.


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And so write some things down.


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Write down

what some of your biggest God given


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desires are right now

that you're not getting in your life


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and write down

how you can pursue those in healthy ways.


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Okay, so if your desires for acceptance,

adventure,


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affirmation, authenticity,

if you want to be heard,


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if you need to be known,

if you're longing to be seen or pursued,


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if you

need belonging, if you need community, or


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if you need contribution more contribution

in your life, more giving to others.


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Perhaps you're looking for growth.


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Perhaps

you're looking for love and intimacy.


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Or maybe you just need rest, right?


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There are so many and I could go on,

but there are so many desires that we have


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that we let go under the radar


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because again,

things like pornography have clouded them.


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They've dulled them out.


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We've got to stop ourselves,


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think about this

and then go on relentless pursuit


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of a greater, better

life, grounded in our God given desires.


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So we're going to stop here.


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Thank you for sticking with me

in this episode


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and covering all these different root

causes.


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Again, in the coming

episodes, we're going to dove more deeply


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into several of these,

and so I'm excited for it.


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I hope you'll stick with us.


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And really quick,


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I want to give a personal thank you

to many of you who have began to support


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the work and support the podcast

and to support other content


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to release in the near future.


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Man, you guys are making

all the difference


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and it is so encouraging to be receiving

some of that.


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It's a way that you guys are empowering me

to pursue God given talents and desires


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and to make a difference in this area

and pornography and is prevalence.


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And with so many men trapped in it,

just being able to reach out and get the


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message out and work with more men

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So anyways, we will see you guys

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And until then, thank you for listening

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